I am excited about this game!

[Jaxs]

This game is a fall back to the old style RPG’s. WoW is a quest based game. If content is king then WoW wins hands down. This has been said about many a game. If Wow really has quest and adventure content all the way to max level then they will defiantly have an exciting game. Use the drop down lists to read up on the game. This is the hottest game at this time. Lots of Hype and we all know about that.

I will be doing this game as I have moved on from SWG. So who is going to try this with me??

Of Course I will be back to a Hammer swinging Paladin as I did in UO.

[Aeife/Niamb]

I'll definitely try this. SWG is just getting stale for me. While there are aspects I love (the communication system is awesome and being able to have a system supported player run city is cool), there seems to be little content, less and less reason to group and the game seems to have become an endless, pointless grind. Jump to Lightspeed just sounds like a shooter game which is not a style of game that has ever appealed to me. I was planning to buy it, but now I'm not sure I will. I applied for beta, so I might try it there though if I get accepted.

I've started reading about World of Warcraft. Of course everything sounds cool in the beginning and the sheer newness makes almost every game fun at first. I won't close down my SWG accounts right away, but will adopt a try WoW and see how I like it after a month or two attitude. I'm only now preparing to shut down my one remaining UO account, heh. I'm paid up through Oct. 17 and then I shut my UO account down.

[Aeife/Niamb]

Just went to Amazon.com and pre-ordered my copy.

[Mackenzie]

I'm intending to try this out - I'll probaly hook up with Shadowclan to do the orc thing on a PvP server but hope to end up with with DoJ to explore the alliance side of the coin. (Hopefully AvH but don't put too much stock in my opinions as I don't even know if I'll play longterm) I'm not too keen on the cartoony feel of the graphics, but I'll have to see first hand. For me the main factor in whether I move my gaming time over will be my wife's take on it.

[Kragen]

My biggest issue is the entire premise of Warcraft. By it's nature it is a game that is defined by conflict and in turn I think lends itself more to pvp. All of Blizzards great games have been built on the premise of strong pvp and it is the primary reason I am not a huge fan of their games. I dont see how this will be different for WoW. I know they say pvp will be consenual, but I have heard this before. Developers in general seem to cater to this type of playstyle in a lot of games. This means they spend more time developing content that gears towards pvp and pve players tend to get left behind. Since Blizzard is the king of PvP games in many ways (Diablo? Starcraft?) I see them catering more towards this style of play and less to the pve crowd.

From reading the FAQ there a few things I do not like right off the bat. Corpse runs. This is one of the single most annoying things in the MMORPG world and WoW is going to have them.

The other thing is the fact that races start in different cities and some races will not have an easy time to get to other cities. So if members of the DoJ choose different races it sounds like it may not be that easy to get together and adventure together. Personal mounts will only be available to higher lvl characters (lvl 40?!?!) and it sounds like shuttle type of flying service is only available to areas you have already explored.

The more I read the less I am interested in this game. *shrug* Perhaps it is simply the fact that I have become somewhat bored and disenchanted with the genre. I will wait and see. I may even be tempted to buy it later on, but part of me really does not want to get sucked into another endless MMORPG treadmill.

[San'uel / Ja'mook]

I'm a crafter at heart and this looks alot like the crafting in EQ minus the really, really, really frustrating fails. Looks like fun =)

[Lore aka Ras]

The cartoony graphics are a big no no for me. Im an eye candy fella, and considering Ill be staring at the game all the time I play, I probably wont enjoy it. I am more excited and looking forward to Wish, and more importantly, Middle Earth Online. Until then, Ill probably be hanging around with Mythic! ;D

[Marna]

i dunno if ill have the necessary funds to play 2 games at once. DAoC is gettin hot and heavy lately and takin up most of my free time.. but mebbe ill try it for a month or so to see how it is.... tho like Ras said.. cartoonish graphix will prolly be the end of this game.. face it the better it looks, the easier it is on the eyes to play for any period of time.

[Jaxs]

I dont think the graphics screen shots do this game justice. But everyone sees things a bit differently.

The best looking game I have ever played was AC2. That game was totally fantastic. SWG is nice but I have most stuff turned down because it just laggs my machine turned all the way up. AC2 I can turn it all the way up and its awsome.

Simply said AC2 looked great but I passed on the game itself. UO is 2D and looked OK and I played for years. SWG has been a mix and its been fun.

I think most people will be able to turn there graphics way up and run at higher res. in WoW. All of Blizzard's games have the blizzard graphical style. Warcraft & Diablo where fine, granted you were at a fixed distance from the action all the time. WoW is a true 3D game with free flowing cameras just like all these new games.

For me its all about the game and how the community needs or works in the game that counts. Those things no one will know really untill the game is released.

I personally look forward to actually playing different styles with friend. SWG had me stuck like a round peg in a square hole, with there one character / server.

OOOps I forgot about Lineage2. Now that was a sexy looking game, Ya Baby. Anyone playing that ?

[Terina/Sinaroc]

As far as the death penalties and corpse runs

They even made jab at daoc(and others) that people used the deaths for quick run back to town or whatever. How about a solution for the reason people do that in first place(travel and time sinks well suck). Give people some sort of limited bind spell(that can only be used couple times a day) since no one will dare make anything like UO's recall spell.

So what is 30yards/meters in this game? They say corpses won't be camped in pvp cause there is a 30 range to go back to em and get rezzed. That sounds like a real small number and they are naive if they think that'd prevent camping and also luring of creatures to the corpse.
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As far as the alliance vs horde servers they should do it like daoc and have no trading or talking between the realms. That would lead to a better us vs them attitude and thats what it should be. According to faq they seemed undecided about what to do.


*throws down 2 cents* Really didnt know where to discuss these

[Jaxs]

If you die, its a short run back, but you dont have to run all the way back. You only have to run into range. This means that if you got killed in the middle of a mob or some are camping you all you have to do is skim the edge of that range in any direction and res. You can even go in and out till you find a safe spot. Hard to tell what it will be like when thousands of people are on a server. I think the range could be a bit bigger.

There is an inn recall. You can use it once every hour.

[Mackenzie]

Well Onoa and I will try it out for a month at least. Will buy one game and share it between the two of us and see what we thinks after. Probaly won't be right on at release as newer games can take some time to reach our neck of the woods, but will try to hit whatever server DoJ is on. I'm assuming it'll be alliance right?

The dealbreaker for me will be how PvP is implemented and whether it's 2 seconds wtfomgpwnded type of combat or whether there actually is some back and forth like post UOR but pre AOS combat. Having an overiding meta-plot helps too as random ganking gets old after a bit too.

[Marna]

"I have played all WarCraft Games, all StarCraft (not just for PC) games not to mention AC1, AC2, Earth and Beyond, EverQuest, and other various RTS's and online RPG's and this game is first off, very frustrating. Most games normally start out easy then get difficult as you progress, while World of WarCraft starts out hard and gets easy. ... Haveing to strive and get powerfull for nothing kinda bores me. I do like the scenery though and the creatures, they portray really good artwork and it clearly shows the artist put some serious efforts into it. I plan on playing this game more in the future, but I wont start until they modify the monsters and the glitches. That's right I said glitches. Surprised, don't be. Most online RPG's have them. There was s glitch that ate my inventory, but who cares about that? So, in conclusion I do reccomend this game to play and try it out, but you should wait at least 2-6 months before doing so, to give them time to fix things, but if you decide to play this game despite my warning; may I suggest to report all glitches and errors to the administrators and technicians to make the World of Warcraft a better place for all. "

quote from a review i read... so if i do start this game .. it will be after the first 6 months... i went thru hell with shadowbane <and it still isnt fixed> and with UO changes 3 times.. lol... now upcoming on DAoC changes.. so i think ill wait out the bug filled beginning...

[balut]

I'm getting excited about this game too. This will be the second online game for me. SWG was really fun in the beginning, but the grind just made me not like playing anymore. Ok, being on dial-up also. But WoW is going to be more Mac's also. I have a PowerBook G4 and an OK PC. I really hope I can play with my G4. If so, I'm getting broad band. I'll be able to play anywhere around the house. Even while taking a dump. hahaha...just kidding.

I was wondering how DOJ will work, if people wanna be the bad guys? Will it be like in SWG? Also, I've had problems playing because most DOJ's are East Coast and I'm West Coast. I tend to miss out on guild hunts that start at 8pm est.

[Jaxs]

There is no real plan yet. That’s what we will be talking about here on this form. They have not even decided weather we will be able to have Horde & Alliance characters on the same server. They have the story line in a way that even the Horde people can be noble heroes. SWG members are so large now that there is stuff going on all the time. Why there are not events starting at 9pst is up to those that wish to plan events. I hope we have some that will plan events at different time. Ill do my part and plan events during the times I play.

Current Plan:

Pick a server???
Start an Alliance guild. Cost at this time 10 silver, 10 players
Have fun, recruit more people. Learn the game
Develop characters
Have fun, explore, maybe start a few more character types.
Recruit more people. (its so easy to add people to a guild is scary)
More fun, We will all probably have horde characters by this time
Collect screen shot of proposals for Tabard
Collect 10 gold for a Tabard
Guild is totally set up.

How we experience the game from then on will depend on what people will want to do. I am sure small pockets of people will want to try PvP on both sides of the fence etc.

I am just wondering how many short avatars we will have in guild? LOL


when we know the server list we will vote on this message board.

[Aeife/Niamb]

I was bored yesterday and went to Amazon.com and started reading the customer reviews on this product. Most of these people had tried it out in Beta (either closed or stress) and I found their enthusiasm to be quite heartening. I particularly liked how bug free these reviewers claimed it was, especially for a product that is still in beta testing.

I remember when Star Wars Galaxies was about to go live thinking how bug ridden it was and, based on my experience in their beta, that the game was not yet ready for Prime Time. It is refreshing to see a company that appears to care more about putting out a quality product than rushing to market.

Having read these reviews at Amazon, I am really getting excited about WoW. It would be so nice if I could get into beta. If anyone sees an announcemet of open beta testing for WoW, please post it here.

[Jaxs]

The game is basically bug free and ready to roll. They are just adding more content and doing balance stuff. Yes they are still tweaking professions, skills, talents etc. The guts of the game are done and work quite well. You can read there message boards about stuff but those seem to be populated with complainers or nerfing freaks. I would say if it was SOE or EA the game would have been released already.

[SirLanka]

Well I plan on giving this game a try, so I guess I will see you all there. It's time to have fun again.

[Santa]

Im gunna give this a try also. SWG doesnt seem to be doing it for me. its a great game but its not really all there for me, dunno why but hey. anyone know if the other warcraft games are linked to this in anyway? as in should i maybe try the originals to get an idea on this?

[Jaxs]

No - The Other warcraft games are single player RTS games. They are ok to play but dont really translate over to this game.

Same type Graphics
Same history / story type world / characters

Thats about it. I played Warcraft3 and dident like it much. I am not twitchy enough to play RTS games. WoW is not a twitchy game.

[FlashmandoII]

Wow i just read abunch about this game on there forems. It sounds like Flash is having nothing to do with this one. Hope when all the DOJers leave SWG(?) i can still hear from you on the forums. I hope Some of you will stay on SWG cause i love the interaction with you all. Doj is a great thing but this game......gotta draw the line. Hoping for a better alternative and still enjoying SWG!

[Jaxs]

Be careful about what you read on the there web forms. Game forms are notoriously filled with negative comments and appalling conduct. I have never ever seen a positive game form for any game. Public scrutiny is always that way. SWG had to close their forms to the public just after releases be cause it was so bad.

The only way you will really know how this game plays is to try it in the public beta. There will be one just before it goes live.

Here is a review that is basically even handed and spells it out quite well.

www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/1/gameID/15/

My review is;

WoW is a a MMORPG just like UO, EQ, DAoC and SWG. There really is nothing new in this game that the others don’t have. That said, in WoW those things actually work, where in many games things are broke and are still broke. (battlefields, instance adventuring, quests/missions) I would not say WoW is new and totally innovative, but I would say is that they took all the things about these games that worked and made them fun and put them into one game. Many of our members started with UO. For those people WoW will be a breath of fresh air. A game that actually plays well, is fun and works great before they go public.

By far SWG to date is the most technically superior game out there. Nothing even comes close to it. DoJ rocks in SWG and I am sure with your efforts and others it will even get better. The one thing that gets us old timers is the grind. They all have it and its not much fun. WoW has changed all that by having tons and tons of story content. OK there quests are not totally to the single player level but if you played any single player RP games and did any side quest then you know what the quest of WoW are like. They are all side quest with a kick so that a few people can work together to get them done. There are more than enough quests for any given level to do to advance your character. So if you want to just grind / kill mobs to level up you can (power gamer). If you want to take your time and do all the quests and get into all the nooks and crannies of WoW you can do that to. I would think that your cheating yourself if you power game this one. In SWG, DAoC & UO it just does not matter, there is not enough story content to fill the overall grind.

Thats why I will be trying this game.

[shady]

FlashmandoII said:

Wow i just read abunch about this game on there forems. It sounds like Flash is having nothing to do with this one. Hope when all the DOJers leave SWG(?) i can still hear from you on the forums. I hope Some of you will stay on SWG cause i love the interaction with you all. Doj is a great thing but this game......gotta draw the line. Hoping for a better alternative and still enjoying SWG!

It's the nature of how things go in the online gaming world. Some people are always looking for the next best thing to come out. Like UO went to DAoC them to SWG & now when WoW comes out then what ever is next in line.....

Ah well, as long as you are happy playing the game you're in is all that matters....

For now I'm gonna stick with Asgeroth Isle II, havin fun plus good people. Plus the boards are good for keeping in contact with everybody... ;D

[Avari]

Glad to see you fine people showing intrest in WoW. I was so pleased to find DoJ in SWG. The community was strong in the city of Justice and the people were friendly during the hunts. Loved the hunts early on. And to see you heading toward this next adventure is very pleasing.

I left SWG (though my account is still active) for two reasons. I was mad at SOE for quiting on the storyline of the game. They got too involved in balancing things and adding new dungeons that they forgot about including any semblence of story. Second reason I left was that though I was a fairly active player I could never meet up for the guild events. I got lonely in game and then stopped trying to make new connections with the DoJ. My fault (and I am a loner by nature) but still.

WoW is going to hold my interest and here is why. The storyline appears fully developed with end game stuff already designed in. Also there is rumors of life quests being added. Stories that focus your characters quests and adventures throughout their life. I can quest now rather than camp some high xp site endlessly. secondly, questing eliminates the grind. Everyone says that leveling is easy and that you don't feel any grind effect -yahoo. as Niamb mentioned, this game is very finished and the future patched material shouldn't completely change play. So I won't get all pissy after each patch. I like the cartoony graphics. Truthfully, the texture is fairly rich and the art is well done. PvP will be a big part of this game. I hated PvP in SWG. But I think with no death penalty except a corpse run I might enjoy it more. Lastly, i have met more west coast players so when DoJ turns in for the evening I can meet up with them. Maybe I'll come out of my shell a bit too.

My one concern is that DoJ will be Alliance and I was planning on playing in the Horde. I certainly hope Blizzard will allow for characters from both factions on your account. If not then I'll be disappointed. Another concern is that there are areas where lower level characters can't get to. Newbies will not be able to tag along. Also group size is limited to 8 players I think. No more massive group hunts. Well, I've rambled on long enough. Looking forward to seeing you 11/15.

[Aeife/Niamb]

As I understand it you can only play one faction on a server. So if you have one Horde character on a server, all your characters on that server have to be Horde. This is supposed to prevent spying. It also appears you will be able to have up to 8 characters per account. So you could play a Horde character on one of the West Coast servers and have an Alliance character on the East Coast server DoJ decides on.

[Jaxs]

We may have to pick 2 servers one for the alliance and one for the Horde. Never fear I think we all want to experiance all aspects of the game.